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Thoughtforms Life

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A podcast by Professor Michael Levin exploring the frontiers of biology, cognition, and emergence. Engage in conversations about morphogenesis, bioelectricity, and synthetic life — and uncover how intelligence and agency emerge from the most fundamental levels of nature.

A conversation with Andrey Vyshedskiy about the evolution of language and brain development

13 Sep 2026

This is a ~1 hour conversation with Andrey Vyshedskiy (https://www.bu.edu/prsocial/profile/andrey-vyshedskiy/ (https://www.bu.edu/prsocial/profile/andrey-vyshedskiy/)) about the evolution of

Conversation #1 with Diego Bohórquez and Mijail D. Serruya: how information moves levels in bodies

3 Sep 2026

This is a ~59 minute working meeting where I introduce two very interesting neuroscientists to each other - Diego Bohórquez (https://medicine.duke.edu/profile/diego-v-bohorquez

Conversation #1 with Steven Strogatz

22 Aug 2026

This is a ~56 minute conversation with mathematician Steven Strogatz (https://www.stevenstrogatz.com/ (https://www.stevenstrogatz.com/)) covering issues of explanation in mathematics, Platonism, and

Conversation #1 with Alexey Tolchinsky, Anthony Weiss and Chris Fields

29 Jul 2026

This is a ~1 hour conversation on the future of mental health from the perspective of the diverse intelligence field, with Alexey Tolchinsky

Conversation #1 with

28 Jul 2026

This is a ~1 hour working meeting with Thomas Pollak (https://www.kcl.ac.uk/people/thomas-pollak (https://www.kcl.ac.uk/people/thomas-pollak), https://drtompollak.substack.com/

"Diverse Intelligence: new frontier for Origins, Possibilities, and Diseases of Minds by" M. Levin

10 Jul 2026

This is a ~54 minute talk titled "Diverse Intelligence: a new frontier for Origins, Possibilities, and Diseases of the Mind(s)" which I gave for an audience composed of mental health professionals

"Energy Constraints and Tradeoffs" by Martin Picard

27 Jun 2026

This is a ~57 minute talk titled "Energy Constraints and Tradeoffs: the mitochondrial daily energy expenditure MDEE study" by Martin Picard

"Aging, goal-directedness, and bioelectricity" by Michael Levin

26 Jun 2026

This is ~23 minute talk overviewing our recent results and the way we think about aging and longevity. It was for a conference with quite short speaking slots so I had to talk fast... Longer talk

Computationalism and consciousness with Nic Rouleau, Jaan Aru, and Borjan Milinkovic.

22 Jun 2026

Discussion #2 (57 minutes on computationalism and consciousness) with Borjan Milinkovic (https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=AwaZbzsAAAAJ&hl=en

Free Lunches: Model Systems for Studying the Agential Gifts from the Platonic Space by Michael Levin

20 Jun 2026

This is a talk I gave, ~49 minutes long, titled "Free Lunches: Model Systems for Studying the Agential Gifts from the Platonic Space", to a philosophy audience. It covers some more ways I think about

Platonic Space discussion 5

29 May 2026

This is a ~2 hour discussion among contributors to the Platonic Space Symposium ( CHAPTERS: (00:00) Strong perception framework (10:12) Perception model boundaries (17:41) Penrose and

Platonic Space discussion 4

25 May 2026

This is a ~2 hours 4 minute discussion among contributors to the Platonic Space Symposium ( CHAPTERS: (00:00) Strong anticipation analogy (08:16) Relational Platonic patterns (25:06) Finite

Discussion #1 with Amahury Jafet Lopez Diaz, Carlos Gershenson-Garcia, and Richard Watson

19 May 2026

This is a ~1 hour 5 minute discussion with Amahury Jafet Lopez Diaz ( Carlos Gershenson-Garcia ( and Richard Watson ( Stay tuned for part 2 where Amahury will present his ideas in more detail.

A Multiscale Logic of Collective Intelligence" by Donald Hoffman and Chetan Prakash

11 Apr 2026

This is a ~1.5 hour talk + discussion, titled "A Multiscale Logic of Collective Intelligence" by Donald Hoffman ( and Chetan Prakash ( with Robert Chis-Ciure ( and Chris Fields ( and me. CHAPTERS:

Discussion: Lisa Maroski, Michael Levin, Richard Watson

10 Apr 2026

This is a ~1 hour discussion with Lisa Maroski ( and Richard Watson ( about the role of language in shaping our thinking in the field of diverse intelligence and beyond. CHAPTERS: (00:00) Language

Discussion: Richard Watson, Alexey Tolchinsky, Mark Solms, Michael Levin, and Karl Friston

9 Apr 2026

This is a ~1 hour meeting with Richard Watson ( Alexey Tolchinsky ( Mark Solms ( and Karl Friston ( where we discuss issues of memory (especially, the role of forgetting) in diverse intelligence

Conversation with Nic Rouleau, part 1: "Some thoughts on the mind as material"

3 Apr 2026

This is a ~1 hour talk and discussion, comprising part 1 of a conversation with a really interesting young neuroscientist, as well as friend, collaborator, and our Center member, Nicolas Rouleau (

Conversation with Nic Rouleau, part 2: neuroscience, memory transfer, aging of cognition, and more

3 Apr 2026

This is a ~55 minute discussion following up on Nic's talk and our brief conversation ( comprising part 2 of a conversation with a really interesting young neuroscientist, as well as friend,

Conversation 2 with Lisa Barrett, Ben Lyons, and Karen Quigley

24 Mar 2026

This is a second conversation with Lisa Barrett ( Karen Quigley ( and Benjamin Lyons ( about Relational Realism, allostasis, and questions of mind/body/behavior. CHAPTERS: (00:00) Rethinking

Cancer: mitochondria and metabolism - a discussion with Thomas Seyfried and his group

17 Mar 2026

This is a 1hr + 23 minutes talk and conversation with Thomas Seyfried, Derek Lee and Tomás Duraj ( Juanita Mathews from my group ( about their work on the metabolic and mitochondrial aspects of

"On Biological and Artificial Consciousness" by Borjan Milinkovic and Jaan Aru

5 Mar 2026

This is a ~53 minute talk + 14 minute Q&A titled "On Biological and Artificial Consciousness: a case for biological computationalism" by Borjan Milinkovic ( and Jaan Aru ( CHAPTERS: (00:00) Speaker

Platonic Space discussion 3

5 Feb 2026

This is a ~1 hours 44 minute discussion among contributors to the Platonic Space Hypothesis (https://thoughtforms.life/symposium-on-the-platonic-space/).

Conversation with Darren Iammarino #1

4 Feb 2026

This is a ~54 minute conversation with Darren Iammarino (https://scholar.google.com/citations?hl=en&user=YNrxRaYAAAAJ&view_op=list_works)

"The Bioelectric Interface to the Collective Intelligence of Morphogenesis" by Michael Levin

30 Jan 2026

This is a ~57 minute talk titled "The Bioelectric Interface to the Collective Intelligence of Morphogenesis: development, regeneration, cancer, and beyond" which I gave at a UCSF seminar for an

Discussion #1 at the Platonic Space Symposium

21 Jan 2026

This is a ~1 hour 40 minute discussion among contributors to the Platonic Space Hypothesis (https://thoughtforms.life/symposium-on-the-platonic-space/)

Conversation 1 with Mijail Serruya, Alessandro Napoli, and Wesley Clawson

18 Jan 2026

This is a ~1 hour conversation with (including a short talk by) Mijail Serruya (https://research.jefferson.edu/labs/researcher/serruya-research.html),

Conversation 1 w/ Lisa Barrett, Ben Lyons, Eli Sennesh, Jordan Theriault-Brown, and Karen Quigley

17 Jan 2026

This is a discussion with with Lisa Feldman Barrett (https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=WF5c0_8AAAAJ&hl=en), (https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=WF5c0_8AAAAJ&hl=en),) Benjamin Lyons

"Evolution and Intelligence: inversion and a positive feedback spiral" by Michael Levin

15 Jan 2026

This is a ~50 minute video on evolution from the perspective of diverse intelligence. I discuss 3 main things: the nature of the mapping between genotype and phenotype (an intelligent,

“The Unreasonable Effectiveness of the Behavioral Sciences in Developmental Biology and Biomedicine”

11 Dec 2025

This is a ~46 minute talk by Michael Levin titled “The Unreasonable Effectiveness of the Behavioral Sciences in Developmental Biology and Biomedicine” given at a developmental

Discussion #1 with Katrina Schleisman and David Burke

10 Dec 2025

This is a ~54 minute conversation with Katrina Schleisman (https://www.galois.com/team/katrina-schleisman) (https://www.galois.com/team/katrina-schleisman)) and David Burke

Conversation with David Resnik 1

1 Dec 2025

This is a ~52 minute conversation with philosopher David Resnik (https://www.niehs.nih.gov/research/resources/bioethics/bioethicist)

Discussion #1 with Elan Barenholtz

30 Nov 2025

This is a ~57 minute discussion with Elan Barenholtz (https://mpcrlab.com/people/Elan-Barenholtz/) (https://mpcrlab.com/people/Elan-Barenholtz/)) about language and its possible autonomy in brains,

Conversation 1 with Diana Moga, Alexey Tolchinsky, and Chris Fields

29 Nov 2025

This is a ~52 minute discussion between Diana Moga (https://www.dianamogamd.com/), (https://www.dianamogamd.com/),) Alexey Tolchinsky (https://montgomerycountypsychologist.com/),

Conversation 1 with Nora Belrose: AI, sentience, and Platonic Space

23 Nov 2025

This is a ~1 hour 5 minute conversation between Nora Belrose (https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=p_oBc64AAAAJ&hl=en) (https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=p_oBc64AAAAJ&hl=en)) and me on

Discussion with Alexey Tolchinsky and Thomas Pollak 2

22 Nov 2025

This is a ~1 hour conversation between Alexey Tolchinsky (https://montgomerycountypsychologist.com/), (https://montgomerycountypsychologist.com/),) a clinical psychologist and Adjunct Professor at

Discussion #1 with Chris Fields, Mark Solms, Karl Friston, and Thomas Pollak: introspection & more

21 Nov 2025

This is a ~1 hour 5 minute working conversation with Chris Fields (https://chrisfieldsresearch.com/), (https://chrisfieldsresearch.com/),) Mark Solms

"Entropic motivation and the roots of agency"by Alex Kiefer

17 Nov 2025

This is a ~35 min talk titled "Entropic motivation and the roots of agency" by Alex Kiefer (https://philpeople.org/profiles/alex-kiefer) (https://philpeople.org/profiles/alex-kiefer)) + ~25 min

"Unconventional Embodiments: model systems & strategies addressing mind-blindness" by Michael Levin

11 Nov 2025

This is a ~45 minute talk for an embodied cognition audience, covering my framework for diverse intelligence, our use of morphogenesis as a model system for communicating with unconventional minds,

"Platonic Space: brief argument and research agenda" by Michael Levin

29 Oct 2025

This is a brief (~17 minute) introduction to my argument about Platonic space in biology, using a 1-page simplified argument format and then a quick overview of the research program entailed by it.

Against Mind-Blindness: recognizing and communicating with unconventional beings by Michael Levin

26 Oct 2025

This ~50 minute talk given at a futurism/AI gathering is a variant of my recent talks on diverse intelligence, focusing on ways to expand our perspective via considerations of non-brain-based

Conversation with Benjamin Lyons, Eli Sennesh, and Jordan Theriault

21 Oct 2025

This is a ~1 hour discussion with Ben Lyons (https://interestingessays.substack.com/), (https://interestingessays.substack.com/),) Eli Sennesh

"What the physiological software of life means for patient-specific interventions" by Michael Levin

14 Oct 2025

This is a very brief (~5 minute) explanation I made at a conference on next generation biomedicine about the topic of physiological learning and reprogrammability. I was commenting on the fact that

Why bioelectricity in morphogenesis matters: an introduction in 3 slides by Michael Levin

14 Oct 2025

This is an ~8 minute very quick introduction about the context for developmental bioelectricity and some examples of how we use it as an interface to control growth and form. In this very short 3

"The biology of apparent selves" by Michael Levin

12 Oct 2025

This is a ~52-minute talk titled "The Biology of Apparent Selves: Bioengineering Model Systems for the Contemplative Sciences" that I have at the CSCSC 25 (Complex Systems and Contemplative Studies

Discussion with Alexey Tolchinsky and Patricia Silveira 1

11 Oct 2025

This is a ~48 minute discussion between Alexey Tolchinsky (https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=tiBKmrsAAAAJ&hl=en), (https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=tiBKmrsAAAAJ&hl=en),) Patricia

"The Embodied Mind of a New Robot Scientist" by Michael Levin

8 Oct 2025

This is a ~58 minute talk titled "The Embodied Mind of a New Robot Scientist: symmetries between AI and bioengineering the agential material of life and their impact on technology and on our future"

"Bioelectricity: a bridge between physics and cognition, by way of biology" by Michael Levin

7 Oct 2025

This is a ~22 minute talk that I gave remotely at the Tech For Impact Summit 2025 in Japan (https://tech4impactsummit.com/). (https://tech4impactsummit.com/).) It goes very quickly over the idea of

Bioelectricity: A Bridge Between Physics and Cognition, by Way of Biology

23 Sep 2025

This is a ~54 minute talk I gave, titled ""Bioelectricity: a bridge between physics and cognition, by way of biology", at the National Institute of Health Interest Group "Quantum SIG"

Intrinsic Motivation in Evolved, Engineered, and Hybrid Systems

20 Sep 2025

This is a ~1 hour talk I gave at the Oxford Robotics Institute called "Intrinsic motivation in evolved, engineered, and hybrid systems: the interface of biophysics, computer science, and behavioral

Discussion between Elliot Murphy and Michael Levin 1

18 Sep 2025

This is a a ~1 hour discussion between Elliot Murphy (https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=4AYNRj0AAAAJ&hl=en) (https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=4AYNRj0AAAAJ&hl=en)) and me on the topic