
Thoughtforms Life
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A podcast by Professor Michael Levin exploring the frontiers of biology, cognition, and emergence. Engage in conversations about morphogenesis, bioelectricity, and synthetic life — and uncover how intelligence and agency emerge from the most fundamental levels of nature.
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A conversation with Andrey Vyshedskiy about the evolution of language and brain development
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13 Sep 2026
This is a ~1 hour conversation with Andrey Vyshedskiy (https://www.bu.edu/prsocial/profile/andrey-vyshedskiy/ (https://www.bu.edu/prsocial/profile/andrey-vyshedskiy/)) about the evolution of

Conversation #1 with Diego Bohórquez and Mijail D. Serruya: how information moves levels in bodies
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3 Sep 2026
This is a ~59 minute working meeting where I introduce two very interesting neuroscientists to each other - Diego Bohórquez (https://medicine.duke.edu/profile/diego-v-bohorquez

Conversation #1 with Steven Strogatz
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22 Aug 2026
This is a ~56 minute conversation with mathematician Steven Strogatz (https://www.stevenstrogatz.com/ (https://www.stevenstrogatz.com/)) covering issues of explanation in mathematics, Platonism, and

Conversation #1 with Alexey Tolchinsky, Anthony Weiss and Chris Fields
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29 Jul 2026
This is a ~1 hour conversation on the future of mental health from the perspective of the diverse intelligence field, with Alexey Tolchinsky

Conversation #1 with
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28 Jul 2026
This is a ~1 hour working meeting with Thomas Pollak (https://www.kcl.ac.uk/people/thomas-pollak (https://www.kcl.ac.uk/people/thomas-pollak), https://drtompollak.substack.com/

"Diverse Intelligence: new frontier for Origins, Possibilities, and Diseases of Minds by" M. Levin
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10 Jul 2026
This is a ~54 minute talk titled "Diverse Intelligence: a new frontier for Origins, Possibilities, and Diseases of the Mind(s)" which I gave for an audience composed of mental health professionals

"Energy Constraints and Tradeoffs" by Martin Picard
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27 Jun 2026
This is a ~57 minute talk titled "Energy Constraints and Tradeoffs: the mitochondrial daily energy expenditure MDEE study" by Martin Picard

"Aging, goal-directedness, and bioelectricity" by Michael Levin
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26 Jun 2026
This is ~23 minute talk overviewing our recent results and the way we think about aging and longevity. It was for a conference with quite short speaking slots so I had to talk fast... Longer talk

Computationalism and consciousness with Nic Rouleau, Jaan Aru, and Borjan Milinkovic.
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22 Jun 2026
Discussion #2 (57 minutes on computationalism and consciousness) with Borjan Milinkovic (https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=AwaZbzsAAAAJ&hl=en

Free Lunches: Model Systems for Studying the Agential Gifts from the Platonic Space by Michael Levin
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20 Jun 2026
This is a talk I gave, ~49 minutes long, titled "Free Lunches: Model Systems for Studying the Agential Gifts from the Platonic Space", to a philosophy audience. It covers some more ways I think about

Platonic Space discussion 5
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29 May 2026
This is a ~2 hour discussion among contributors to the Platonic Space Symposium ( CHAPTERS: (00:00) Strong perception framework (10:12) Perception model boundaries (17:41) Penrose and

Platonic Space discussion 4
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25 May 2026
This is a ~2 hours 4 minute discussion among contributors to the Platonic Space Symposium ( CHAPTERS: (00:00) Strong anticipation analogy (08:16) Relational Platonic patterns (25:06) Finite

Discussion #1 with Amahury Jafet Lopez Diaz, Carlos Gershenson-Garcia, and Richard Watson
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19 May 2026
This is a ~1 hour 5 minute discussion with Amahury Jafet Lopez Diaz ( Carlos Gershenson-Garcia ( and Richard Watson ( Stay tuned for part 2 where Amahury will present his ideas in more detail.

A Multiscale Logic of Collective Intelligence" by Donald Hoffman and Chetan Prakash
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11 Apr 2026
This is a ~1.5 hour talk + discussion, titled "A Multiscale Logic of Collective Intelligence" by Donald Hoffman ( and Chetan Prakash ( with Robert Chis-Ciure ( and Chris Fields ( and me. CHAPTERS:

Discussion: Lisa Maroski, Michael Levin, Richard Watson
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10 Apr 2026
This is a ~1 hour discussion with Lisa Maroski ( and Richard Watson ( about the role of language in shaping our thinking in the field of diverse intelligence and beyond. CHAPTERS: (00:00) Language

Discussion: Richard Watson, Alexey Tolchinsky, Mark Solms, Michael Levin, and Karl Friston
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9 Apr 2026
This is a ~1 hour meeting with Richard Watson ( Alexey Tolchinsky ( Mark Solms ( and Karl Friston ( where we discuss issues of memory (especially, the role of forgetting) in diverse intelligence

Conversation with Nic Rouleau, part 1: "Some thoughts on the mind as material"
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3 Apr 2026
This is a ~1 hour talk and discussion, comprising part 1 of a conversation with a really interesting young neuroscientist, as well as friend, collaborator, and our Center member, Nicolas Rouleau (

Conversation with Nic Rouleau, part 2: neuroscience, memory transfer, aging of cognition, and more
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3 Apr 2026
This is a ~55 minute discussion following up on Nic's talk and our brief conversation ( comprising part 2 of a conversation with a really interesting young neuroscientist, as well as friend,

Conversation 2 with Lisa Barrett, Ben Lyons, and Karen Quigley
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24 Mar 2026
This is a second conversation with Lisa Barrett ( Karen Quigley ( and Benjamin Lyons ( about Relational Realism, allostasis, and questions of mind/body/behavior. CHAPTERS: (00:00) Rethinking

Cancer: mitochondria and metabolism - a discussion with Thomas Seyfried and his group
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17 Mar 2026
This is a 1hr + 23 minutes talk and conversation with Thomas Seyfried, Derek Lee and Tomás Duraj ( Juanita Mathews from my group ( about their work on the metabolic and mitochondrial aspects of

"On Biological and Artificial Consciousness" by Borjan Milinkovic and Jaan Aru
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5 Mar 2026
This is a ~53 minute talk + 14 minute Q&A titled "On Biological and Artificial Consciousness: a case for biological computationalism" by Borjan Milinkovic ( and Jaan Aru ( CHAPTERS: (00:00) Speaker

Platonic Space discussion 3
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5 Feb 2026
This is a ~1 hours 44 minute discussion among contributors to the Platonic Space Hypothesis (https://thoughtforms.life/symposium-on-the-platonic-space/).

Conversation with Darren Iammarino #1
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4 Feb 2026
This is a ~54 minute conversation with Darren Iammarino (https://scholar.google.com/citations?hl=en&user=YNrxRaYAAAAJ&view_op=list_works)

"The Bioelectric Interface to the Collective Intelligence of Morphogenesis" by Michael Levin
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30 Jan 2026
This is a ~57 minute talk titled "The Bioelectric Interface to the Collective Intelligence of Morphogenesis: development, regeneration, cancer, and beyond" which I gave at a UCSF seminar for an

Discussion #1 at the Platonic Space Symposium
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21 Jan 2026
This is a ~1 hour 40 minute discussion among contributors to the Platonic Space Hypothesis (https://thoughtforms.life/symposium-on-the-platonic-space/)

Conversation 1 with Mijail Serruya, Alessandro Napoli, and Wesley Clawson
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18 Jan 2026
This is a ~1 hour conversation with (including a short talk by) Mijail Serruya (https://research.jefferson.edu/labs/researcher/serruya-research.html),

Conversation 1 w/ Lisa Barrett, Ben Lyons, Eli Sennesh, Jordan Theriault-Brown, and Karen Quigley
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17 Jan 2026
This is a discussion with with Lisa Feldman Barrett (https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=WF5c0_8AAAAJ&hl=en), (https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=WF5c0_8AAAAJ&hl=en),) Benjamin Lyons

"Evolution and Intelligence: inversion and a positive feedback spiral" by Michael Levin
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15 Jan 2026
This is a ~50 minute video on evolution from the perspective of diverse intelligence. I discuss 3 main things: the nature of the mapping between genotype and phenotype (an intelligent,

“The Unreasonable Effectiveness of the Behavioral Sciences in Developmental Biology and Biomedicine”
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11 Dec 2025
This is a ~46 minute talk by Michael Levin titled “The Unreasonable Effectiveness of the Behavioral Sciences in Developmental Biology and Biomedicine” given at a developmental

Discussion #1 with Katrina Schleisman and David Burke
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10 Dec 2025
This is a ~54 minute conversation with Katrina Schleisman (https://www.galois.com/team/katrina-schleisman) (https://www.galois.com/team/katrina-schleisman)) and David Burke

Conversation with David Resnik 1
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1 Dec 2025
This is a ~52 minute conversation with philosopher David Resnik (https://www.niehs.nih.gov/research/resources/bioethics/bioethicist)

Discussion #1 with Elan Barenholtz
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30 Nov 2025
This is a ~57 minute discussion with Elan Barenholtz (https://mpcrlab.com/people/Elan-Barenholtz/) (https://mpcrlab.com/people/Elan-Barenholtz/)) about language and its possible autonomy in brains,

Conversation 1 with Diana Moga, Alexey Tolchinsky, and Chris Fields
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29 Nov 2025
This is a ~52 minute discussion between Diana Moga (https://www.dianamogamd.com/), (https://www.dianamogamd.com/),) Alexey Tolchinsky (https://montgomerycountypsychologist.com/),

Conversation 1 with Nora Belrose: AI, sentience, and Platonic Space
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23 Nov 2025
This is a ~1 hour 5 minute conversation between Nora Belrose (https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=p_oBc64AAAAJ&hl=en) (https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=p_oBc64AAAAJ&hl=en)) and me on

Discussion with Alexey Tolchinsky and Thomas Pollak 2
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22 Nov 2025
This is a ~1 hour conversation between Alexey Tolchinsky (https://montgomerycountypsychologist.com/), (https://montgomerycountypsychologist.com/),) a clinical psychologist and Adjunct Professor at

Discussion #1 with Chris Fields, Mark Solms, Karl Friston, and Thomas Pollak: introspection & more
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21 Nov 2025
This is a ~1 hour 5 minute working conversation with Chris Fields (https://chrisfieldsresearch.com/), (https://chrisfieldsresearch.com/),) Mark Solms

"Entropic motivation and the roots of agency"by Alex Kiefer
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17 Nov 2025
This is a ~35 min talk titled "Entropic motivation and the roots of agency" by Alex Kiefer (https://philpeople.org/profiles/alex-kiefer) (https://philpeople.org/profiles/alex-kiefer)) + ~25 min

"Unconventional Embodiments: model systems & strategies addressing mind-blindness" by Michael Levin
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11 Nov 2025
This is a ~45 minute talk for an embodied cognition audience, covering my framework for diverse intelligence, our use of morphogenesis as a model system for communicating with unconventional minds,

"Platonic Space: brief argument and research agenda" by Michael Levin
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29 Oct 2025
This is a brief (~17 minute) introduction to my argument about Platonic space in biology, using a 1-page simplified argument format and then a quick overview of the research program entailed by it.

Against Mind-Blindness: recognizing and communicating with unconventional beings by Michael Levin
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26 Oct 2025
This ~50 minute talk given at a futurism/AI gathering is a variant of my recent talks on diverse intelligence, focusing on ways to expand our perspective via considerations of non-brain-based

Conversation with Benjamin Lyons, Eli Sennesh, and Jordan Theriault
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21 Oct 2025
This is a ~1 hour discussion with Ben Lyons (https://interestingessays.substack.com/), (https://interestingessays.substack.com/),) Eli Sennesh

"What the physiological software of life means for patient-specific interventions" by Michael Levin
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14 Oct 2025
This is a very brief (~5 minute) explanation I made at a conference on next generation biomedicine about the topic of physiological learning and reprogrammability. I was commenting on the fact that

Why bioelectricity in morphogenesis matters: an introduction in 3 slides by Michael Levin
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14 Oct 2025
This is an ~8 minute very quick introduction about the context for developmental bioelectricity and some examples of how we use it as an interface to control growth and form. In this very short 3

"The biology of apparent selves" by Michael Levin
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12 Oct 2025
This is a ~52-minute talk titled "The Biology of Apparent Selves: Bioengineering Model Systems for the Contemplative Sciences" that I have at the CSCSC 25 (Complex Systems and Contemplative Studies

Discussion with Alexey Tolchinsky and Patricia Silveira 1
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11 Oct 2025
This is a ~48 minute discussion between Alexey Tolchinsky (https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=tiBKmrsAAAAJ&hl=en), (https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=tiBKmrsAAAAJ&hl=en),) Patricia

"The Embodied Mind of a New Robot Scientist" by Michael Levin
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8 Oct 2025
This is a ~58 minute talk titled "The Embodied Mind of a New Robot Scientist: symmetries between AI and bioengineering the agential material of life and their impact on technology and on our future"

"Bioelectricity: a bridge between physics and cognition, by way of biology" by Michael Levin
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7 Oct 2025
This is a ~22 minute talk that I gave remotely at the Tech For Impact Summit 2025 in Japan (https://tech4impactsummit.com/). (https://tech4impactsummit.com/).) It goes very quickly over the idea of

Bioelectricity: A Bridge Between Physics and Cognition, by Way of Biology
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23 Sep 2025
This is a ~54 minute talk I gave, titled ""Bioelectricity: a bridge between physics and cognition, by way of biology", at the National Institute of Health Interest Group "Quantum SIG"


