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Ryan Greenblatt – Human level AIs might build runaway superintelligences by 2032

11 Aug 2026

Had Ryan Greenblatt on to discuss/debate recursive self-improvement. This might be the most important question in the world right now – whether within a year or so of achieving human-level

8 Predictions for the Era of Continual Learning

7 Aug 2026

Read the essay [here](https://www.dwarkesh.com/p/era-of-continual-learning). Get full access to Dwarkesh Podcast at

Why smarter AI models could drive up compute prices 10x

3 Aug 2026

This is a video recording of a post I wrote last week. If you want to read the original you can check it out [here](https://www.dwarkesh.com/p/why-compute-might-get-10x-more-expensive). Thanks to

Adam Brown – A deep but accessible introduction to general relativity

10 Jul 2026

Adam Brown is back! General relativity is said to be the most beautiful idea the human mind has ever produced. Most of us will never get to fully appreciate its elegance by taking the 20-lecture

Grant Sanderson – AI and the future of math

30 Jun 2026

Always so much fun to chat with [Grant](https://www.youtube.com/c/3blue1brown). AI has been making much faster progress in math than in other fields. As a result, mathematics is showing us, very

The next big breakthrough will be AIs learning on the job

26 Jun 2026

Read it [here](https://www.dwarkesh.com/p/the-next-paradigm). Thanks to Mercury for sponsoring this essay. [Mercury](https://mercury.com/) has automated basically my entire bill pay process for my

The data black hole at the center of AI

19 Jun 2026

Read the [transcript](https://www.dwarkesh.com/p/the-sample-efficiency-black-hole-2) here. Thanks to [Mercury](https://mercury.com) for sponsoring this essay! Mercury just released a new feature

Ada Palmer – Machiavelli is the most misunderstood thinker of all time

16 Jun 2026

Had Ada Palmer back on – this time to talk about Machiavelli, perhaps the most misunderstood thinker of all time. Machiavelli cut his teeth as a high-level diplomat for Florence, a position from

Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

4 Jun 2026

Economics of AGI episode w [Alex Imas](https://www.aleximas.com/) and [Phil Trammell](https://philiptrammell.com/). There’s a bunch of important questions about how we deal with AI that only

Reiner Pope – Chip design from the bottom up

22 May 2026

New blackboard lecture with Reiner Pope: how do chips actually work - starting with basic logic gates, and working up to why GPUs, TPUs, FPGAs, and the human brain each look the way they do.

Eric Jang – Building AlphaGo from scratch

15 May 2026

[Eric Jang](https://evjang.com/) walks through how to build AlphaGo from scratch, but with modern AI tools. Sometimes you understand the future better by stepping backward. AlphaGo is still the

David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

8 May 2026

[David Reich](https://reich.hms.harvard.edu/) is back. He and collaborator [Ali Akbari](https://reich.hms.harvard.edu/people/ali-akbari) just [published a

Reiner Pope – The math behind how LLMs are trained and served

29 Apr 2026

Did a very different format with Reiner Pope - a blackboard lecture where he walks through how frontier LLMs are trained and served. It’s shocking how much you can deduce about what the labs are

Jensen Huang – TPU competition, why we should sell chips to China, & Nvidia’s supply chain moat

15 Apr 2026

I asked Jensen about TPU competition, Nvidia’s lock on the ever more bottlenecked supply chain needed to make advanced chips, whether we should be selling AI chips to China, why Nvidia doesn’t

Michael Nielsen – How science actually progresses

7 Apr 2026

Really enjoyed chatting with Michael Nielsen about how we recognize scientific progress. It's especially relevant for closing the RL verification loop for scientific discovery. But it's also a

Terence Tao – Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

20 Mar 2026

We begin the episode with the absolutely ingenious and surprising way in which Kepler discovered the laws of planetary motion. People sometimes say that AI will make especially fast progress at

Dylan Patel — Deep dive on the 3 big bottlenecks to scaling AI compute

13 Mar 2026

[Dylan Patel](https://x.com/dylan522p?lang=en), founder of [SemiAnalysis](https://semianalysis.com/), provides a deep dive into the 3 big bottlenecks to scaling AI compute: logic, memory, and power.

The most important question nobody's asking about AI

11 Mar 2026

Read the full essay here: [https://www.dwarkesh.com/p/dow-anthropic](https://www.dwarkesh.com/p/dow-anthropic) Timestamps (00:00:00) - Anthropic vs The Pentagon (00:04:16) - The overhangs of

Why Leonardo was a saboteur, Gutenberg went broke, and Florence was weird – Ada Palmer

6 Mar 2026

Renaissance history is so much wilder and weirder than you would have expected. Very fun chatting with [Ada Palmer](https://www.adapalmer.com/) (historian, novelist, and composer based at the

Dario Amodei — "We are near the end of the exponential"

13 Feb 2026

Dario Amodei thinks we are just a few years away from AGI — or as he puts it, from having “a country of geniuses in a data center”. In this episode, we discuss what to make of the scaling

Elon Musk — "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

5 Feb 2026

In this episode, John and I got to do a real deep-dive with Elon. We discuss the economics of orbital data centers, the difficulties of scaling power on Earth, what it would take to manufacture

Adam Marblestone — AI is missing something fundamental about the brain

30 Dec 2025

[Adam Marblestone](https://twitter.com/AdamMarblestone) is CEO of [Convergent Research](https://www.convergentresearch.org/). He’s had a very interesting past life: he was a research scientist at

Thoughts on AI progress (Dec 2025)

23 Dec 2025

Read the essay [here](https://www.dwarkesh.com/p/thoughts-on-ai-progress-dec-2025-video). Timestamps 00:00:00 What are we scaling? 00:03:11 The value of human labor 00:05:04 Economic diffusion

Sarah Paine — Why Russia Lost the Cold War

19 Dec 2025

This is the final episode of the Sarah Paine lecture series, and it’s probably my favorite one. Sarah gives a “tour of the arguments” on what ultimately led to the Soviet Union’s collapse,

Ilya Sutskever — We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

25 Nov 2025

Ilya & I discuss SSI’s strategy, the problems with pre-training, how to improve the generalization of AI models, and how to ensure AGI goes well. Watch on

Satya Nadella — How Microsoft is preparing for AGI

12 Nov 2025

As part of this interview, Satya Nadella gave Dylan Patel (founder of [SemiAnalysis](https://semianalysis.com/)) and me an exclusive first-look at their brand-new Fairwater 2 datacenter. Microsoft

Sarah Paine — How Russia sabotaged China's rise

31 Oct 2025

In this lecture, military historian Sarah Paine explains how Russia—and specifically Stalin—completely derailed China’s rise, slowing them down for over a century. This lecture was

Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

17 Oct 2025

The [Andrej Karpathy](https://x.com/karpathy) episode. During this interview, Andrej explains why reinforcement learning is terrible (but everything else is much worse), why AGI will just blend into

Nick Lane – Life as we know it is chemically inevitable

10 Oct 2025

Nick Lane has some pretty wild ideas about the evolution of life. He thinks early life was continuous with the spontaneous chemistry of undersea hydrothermal vents. Nick’s story may be wrong, but

Some thoughts on the Sutton interview

4 Oct 2025

I have a much better understanding of Sutton’s perspective now. I wanted to reflect on it a bit. (00:00:00) - The steelman (00:02:42) - TLDR of my current thoughts (00:03:22) - Imitation

Richard Sutton – Father of RL thinks LLMs are a dead end

26 Sep 2025

Richard Sutton is the father of reinforcement learning, winner of the 2024 Turing Award, and author of [The Bitter Lesson.](http://www.incompleteideas.net/IncIdeas/BitterLesson.html) And he thinks

Fully autonomous robots are much closer than you think – Sergey Levine

12 Sep 2025

[Sergey Levine](https://x.com/svlevine), one of the world’s top robotics researchers and co-founder of [Physical Intelligence](https://www.physicalintelligence.company/), thinks we’re on the cusp

How Hitler almost starved Britain – Sarah Paine

5 Sep 2025

In this lecture, military historian Sarah Paine explains how Britain used sea control, peripheral campaigns, and alliances to defeat Nazi Germany during WWII. She then applies this framework to

Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that — Jacob Kimmel

21 Aug 2025

[Jacob Kimmel](https://x.com/jacobkimmel) thinks he can find the transcription factors to reverse aging. We do a deep dive on why this might be plausible and why evolution hasn’t optimized for

China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmer

15 Aug 2025

How will we feed the 100s of GWs of extra energy demand that AI will create over the coming decade? On this episode, Casey Handmer (Caltech PhD, former NASA JPL, founder & CEO of Terraform

Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence — Lewis Bollard

7 Aug 2025

A deep dive with Lewis Bollard, who leads Open Philanthropy’s strategy for [Farmed Animal Welfare](https://www.openphilanthropy.org/focus/farm-animal-welfare/), on the surprising economics of the

Sarah Paine — How Imperial Japan defeated Tsarist Russia & Qing China

25 Jul 2025

After my last lecture series with Sarah Paine ended, I still had *so many questions*. I knew we’d only scratched the surface of Sarah’s scholarship, so I immediately invited her back for another

Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin became the most powerful dictator in history

10 Jul 2025

The Stephen Kotkin episode. Kotkin is arguably the world’s foremost expert on Joseph Stalin and has written a massive 2-volume biography on him (with a 3rd volume in the works). No other

Why I don’t think AGI is right around the corner

3 Jul 2025

I’ve had a lot of discussions on [my podcast](https://www.youtube.com/@DwarkeshPatel) where we haggle out timelines to AGI. Some guests think [it’s 20 years

A billion years of evolution in a single afternoon — George Church

26 Jun 2025

George Church is the godfather of modern synthetic biology and has been involved with basically every major biotech breakthrough in the last few decades. Professor Church thinks that these

Why China's manufacturing economy is dominating — Arthur Kroeber

19 Jun 2025

Arthur Kroeber is a leading researcher on Chinese tech and macro, a founding partner at [Gavekal Dragonomics](https://research.gavekal.com/), and author of ["China's Economy: What Everyone Needs to

"China is digging out of a crisis. And America’s luck is wearing thin." — Ken Rogoff

12 Jun 2025

[Ken Rogoff](https://rogoff.scholars.harvard.edu/) is the former chief economist of the IMF, a professor of Economics at Harvard, and author of the newly released [Our Dollar, Your

Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

29 May 2025

On this episode, I chat with [Victor Shih](https://gps.ucsd.edu/faculty-directory/victor-shih.html) about all things China. We discuss China’s massive local debt crisis, the CCP’s views on AI,

Is RL + LLMs enough for AGI? — Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken

22 May 2025

New episode with my good friends [Sholto Douglas](https://x.com/_sholtodouglas?lang=en) & [Trenton Bricken](https://x.com/trentonbricken?lang=en). Sholto focuses on scaling RL and Trenton

What will automated firms look like?

1 May 2025

Based on my essay about [AI firms.](https://www.dwarkesh.com/p/ai-firm) Huge thanks to [Petr](https://www.petrsalaba.cz/) and his team for bringing this to life! Watch on

Mark Zuckerberg — AI will write most Meta code in 18 months

29 Apr 2025

Zuck on: \* Llama 4, benchmark gaming \* Intelligence explosion, business models for AGI \* DeepSeek/China, export controls, & Trump \* Orion glasses, AI relationships, and preventing

Why Rome actually fell: plagues, slavery, & ice age — Kyle Harper

24 Apr 2025

800 years before the Black Death, the very same bacteria ravaged Rome, killing 60%+ of the population in many areas. Also, back-to-back volcanic eruptions caused a mini Ice Age, leaving Rome

AGI is still 30 years away — Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

17 Apr 2025

[Ege Erdil](https://www.lesswrong.com/users/ege-erdil) and [Tamay Besiroglu](https://tamaybesiroglu.com/) have 2045+ timelines, think the whole "alignment" framing is wrong, don't think an

AI 2027: month-by-month model of intelligence explosion — Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

3 Apr 2025

[Scott](https://www.astralcodexten.com/) and [Daniel](https://www.lesswrong.com/users/daniel-kokotajlo) break down every month from now until the 2027 intelligence explosion. Scott Alexander is

AMA: career advice given AGI, how I research ft. Sholto & Trenton

25 Mar 2025

I recorded an AMA! I had a blast chatting with my friends Trenton Bricken and Sholto Douglas. We discussed my new book, career advice given AGI, how I pick guests, how I research for the show, and