Very Bad Wizards

Very Bad Wizards is a podcast featuring a philosopher (Tamler Sommers) and a psychologist (David Pizarro), who share a love for ethics, pop culture, and cognitive science, and who have a marked inability to distinguish sacred from profane. Each podcast includes discussions of moral philosophy, recent work on moral psychology and neuroscience, and the overlap between the two.

Episode 326: The Most Important Episode of Your (Academic) Life

10 Feb 2026

Are you a college student or about to be one? Do you have friends or family in college? This is the most important episode of your life. David and Tamler do something a little different this

Episode 325: It Is Happening Again

27 Jan 2026

David and Tamler return to Mircea Eliade's The Sacred and Profane and discuss the chapter "Sacred Time and Myths." How does viewing time as circular give us a periodic window into the sacred? What

Episode 324: Irruption of the Sacred

13 Jan 2026

David and Tamler consecrate their podcast with a discussion of "The Sacred and the Profane" by Mircea Eliade. We focus on the first chapter on sacred spaces, where the divine breaks through (or

Episode 323: Debate Me 'Phro

23 Dec 2025

David and Tamler dive into Plato's Euthyphro, part of our intermittent Back 2 Basics series. A young cocksure priest, confident in his holiness, bumps into Socrates on his way to court to prosecute

Episode 322: A Theater of Simultaneous Possibilities (William James' "The Stream of Thought")

9 Dec 2025

David and Tamler return to William James' monumental "Principles of Psychology", this time wading through his famous chapter "The Stream of Thought." We talk about his rejection of empiricist

Episode 321: The Journey Begins (Plus Blind Ranking Philosophers)

25 Nov 2025

David and Tamler begin their long journey home to Homer's Odyssey, the tale of king Odysseus' 10 year journey home after the Trojan war (maybe the greatest story ever told). We dive into the first

Episode 320: Forgive Me (Kafka's "A Hunger Artist")

11 Nov 2025

David and Tamler return to one of their favorites, Frans Kafka, this time on his beautiful and distressing short story "The Hunger Artist," a story that brims with metaphorical possibilities but

Episode 319: The Shadow of the Object (Freud's "Mourning and Melancholia")

28 Oct 2025

David and Tamler transfer their libidinal energy to Freud’s 1917 article “Mourning and Melancholia,” in which he tries to understand what's going on with depression, attempts to distinguish it

Episode 318: A PTA Meeting

14 Oct 2025

David and Tamler share some brief thoughts about Paul Thomas Anderson’s latest masterpiece One Battle After Another before going deep on his most underrated movie Inherent Vice. We explore the many

Episode 260: The Scream That Never Found a Voice (Murakami's "Sleep")

9 May 2023

David and Tamler take the first excursion into the work of Haruki Murakami and talk about his short story “Sleep.” A thirty-year-old woman, the wife of a dentist and mother of a young boy, has a

Episode 259: Losing Time ("Tár" with Paul Bloom)

25 Apr 2023

The great Paul Bloom returns to the show to explore the many mysteries of Todd Field’s 2022 film “Tár.” Is it a ghost story? A movie about cancel culture and abuse of power? Guilt?

Episode 258: Mystic Peeza

11 Apr 2023

David and Tamler talk about William James’ chapter on mysticism from his book "Varieties of Religious Experience." What defines a mystical experience? Why do they defy expression and yet feel like

Episode 257: Aural Fixation

28 Mar 2023

David and Tamler deliver a PODCAST episode, one of many that comes from the INTERNET, that you’ll probably listen to through Air Pods or some other kind of WIRELESS HEADPHONES as you go about your

Episode 256: The Right to Punish?

14 Mar 2023

Here’s an episode with something for both of us – a healthy serving of Kantian rationalism for David with a dollop of Marxist criminology for Tamler. We discuss and then argue about Jeffrie

Episode 255: Beloved Child of the House (Susanna Clarke's "Piranesi")

28 Feb 2023

David and Tamler get lost in the world of Susanna Clarke’s "Piranesi," a hauntingly beautiful and thrilling novel with echoes of Borges, Plato, C.S. Lewis, and even Parfit. The first part of our

Episode 254: Nobody's Parfit

14 Feb 2023

Tamler’s earlier self committed to doing an episode on Parfit, and David holds his current self to that promise, which shows how unconvinced David was by Parfit’s skepticism about personal

Episode 253: Tarkovsky's Starchild

31 Jan 2023

It’s the episode that Tamler has been waiting for – a long deep dive into Andrei Tarkovsky’s mysterious masterpiece "Stalker." A writer and professor are led by their guide (Stalker) into a

Episode 252: Yes We Sene-can

10 Jan 2023

David and Tamler dive into Seneca’s “On the Happy Life” and stoicism, the topic selected by our beloved patreon supporters. Why is stoicism so popular today? What does Seneca actually think

Episode 251: First Order, Then Chaos

20 Dec 2022

David and Tamler wind their way through another Borges story - "The Immortal"- about a Roman soldier who seeks the secret of immortality and, much to his horror, finds it. Plus some thoughts on the

Episode 250: Metaphors All the Way Down

6 Dec 2022

We often think of metaphors as poetic flourishes, a nice way to punctuate your ideas and make them more relatable. But what if metaphors aren’t simply tools of language but part of thought

Episode 249: Phlegm and Carelessness (Hume's "The Sceptic")

22 Nov 2022

David and Tamler gild and stain David Hume’s essay “The Sceptic†with their sentiments. If nothing is inherently valuable or despicable, desirable or hateful, then what do

Episode 248: Checkmate, Grasshopper

1 Nov 2022

In this podcast we examine a recent argument for the view that chess is not, in fact, a game. We discuss the Grasshopper’s claim that all games must have a prelusory goal, as well as Skepticus’

Episode 247: Open the Pod, Dave (with Sam Harris)

18 Oct 2022

We welcome Sam Harris back to the show for a deep dive into Stanley Kubrick’s confounding 1968 masterpiece "2001: A Space Odyssey." How long is the Dawn of Man? What does the second monolith do

Episode 246: Existential Poker-Face (David Foster Wallace's "E Unibus Pluram")

4 Oct 2022

We dive into David Foster Wallace’s sprawling 1993 essay “E Unibus Pluram: Television and U.S. Fiction.” How do TV and new forms of media keep their hold on us when we know at some level that

Episode 245: Pragmatically Speaking

20 Sep 2022

David and Tamler take their first real look at pragmatism via Richard Rorty’s “Solidarity or Objectivity.” Can we discover facts about the world as it “really is,” independent of our own

Episode 244: Thanks for the Memories? (Borges' "Funes the Memorious)

6 Sep 2022

David and Tamler return to Borges land to get lost in the infinite, this time with his legendary and tragic character Funes the memorious. What would it be like to have perfect memory, to have full

Episode 243: Finding My Religion

16 Aug 2022

David and Tamler continue their discussion of Leo Tolstoy’s 'Confession.' When we left him last time, the famous author had bottomed out just years after writing two of the greatest novels ever

Bonus Episode: The Ambulators (A "Deadwood" Podcast)

9 Aug 2022

We have a sneak peek for our listeners--the first episode our new Patreon bonus series on David Milch's brilliant (but short-lived) series "Deadwood." In this inaugural edition of "The Ambulators"

Episode 242: Losing My Religion

2 Aug 2022

David and Tamler find themselves unable to attach rational meaning to a single act in their entire lives. Let’s say we publish more articles and books. What then? What about our kids? They’re

Episode 241: Very Bad Orgies (Kubrick's "Eyes Wide Shut")

19 Jul 2022

David and Tamler mask up and wander through the audio and visual orgy of Stanley Kubrick’s final masterpiece Eyes Wide Shut. What is this movie really about? Dreams? Wealth and power? Marriage?

Episode 240: Evil

6 Jul 2022

David and Tamler descend into the dark pits of Hell to look Satan in the eyes and discover the nature of evil. OK…that’s not fully accurate, we just read and talk about a couple of philosophy

Episode 239: Lose Yourself

21 Jun 2022

David and Tamler lose themselves in Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi’s (pr. ‘chick sent me high’) classic paper on the concept of flow. We talk about the features of flow activities – loss of ego, the

Episode 238: I Am Not Ivan Ilyich...Am I?

7 Jun 2022

Ivan Ilyich is a man. All men are mortal. So Ivan Ilyich is mortal. Sure absolutely, that’s true for Ivan Ilyich and for all men. But we’re not Ivan Ilyich and we’re not ‘all men’- so what

Episode 237: Glitches Ain't Shit

24 May 2022

David and Tamler explore the many variations of simulation theory, the view that our universe is just a computer generated model created by an advanced civilization that has reached “technological

Episode 236: Your Outie Is Skilled at Lovemaking (With Paul Bloom)

3 May 2022

We welcome Paul Bloom to talk about the first season of "Severance," the new mind-bending and mind-splitting TV series on Apple TV+. What happens when you separate your home life from your work life?

Episode 235: Animated Objects

19 Apr 2022

Panpsychism didn't give us river spirits or mischievous sootballs, so this time we go straight to the source - a defense of animism, and in a top 10 analytic philosophy journal. Could a failed

Episode 234: Like A Dog (Kafka's "The Trial" Pt. 2)

5 Apr 2022

David and Tamler conclude their discussion of "The Trial," Franz Kafka's darkly comic vision of an opaque and impenetrable bureaucracy that comes for us all in the end. Plus we interrupt our

Episode 233: Keeping It Surreal (Kafka's "The Trial" Pt. 1)

22 Mar 2022

David and Tamler wander through the bewildering dream-like world of Franz Kafka’s "The Trial." In part one of a two-part discussion we discuss the circumstances of its publication, the various

Episode 232: Mind Over Matter

8 Mar 2022

It’s the topic voted on by our beloved Patreon patrons, panpsychism! David and Tamler delve into the resurgent debate over whether consciousness is the fundamental stuff that makes up the universe.

Episode 231: Ideal Critics (Hume's "Of the Standard of Taste")

22 Feb 2022

Many of us think that art is subjective, but at the same time it seems like some artistic judgments are better than others. Do you think Crash deserved to receive an award for Best Picture? Did you

Episode 230: Be Happy (Lars von Trier's "Melancholia")

8 Feb 2022

David and Tamler sink deeper and deeper into Melancholia, Lars von Trier’s harrowing and stunningly beautiful depiction of depression, anxiety, and a wedding reception that just won’t end. They

Episode 229: Skin Deep?

25 Jan 2022

We think racism is wrong but what about “lookism” – a bias that favors attractive people over unattractive ones? If it’s wrong to judge people by the color of their skin, what about judging

Episode 228: Forever Jung

11 Jan 2022

David and Tamler confront their shadows and dive into Carl Jung’s theory of the collective unconscious. What are the central differences between Jung and Freud? What did Jung mean by archetypes and

Episode 227: A Terrible Master (David Foster Wallace's "This Is Water").

21 Dec 2021

David and Tamler dive into David Foster Wallace’s celebrated and surprisingly earnest Kenyon College commencement speech “This is Water”. How can we escape the prison and prism of our

Episode 226: Unraveling Time Traveling (with Barry Lam and Christina Hoff Sommers)

7 Dec 2021

First, it’s the return of the annual drunken Thanksgiving segment! Tamler and based wicked stepmom Christina Hoff Sommers fight about JFK, systematic racism, corporations, and how to pronounce

Episode 225: Forbidden Modules

16 Nov 2021

David and Tamler talk about the often rancorous debate among cognitive scientists and evolutionary psychologists over whether the mind is modular -- composed of discrete systems responsible for

Episode 224: Hurts So Good (With Paul Bloom)

2 Nov 2021

VBW favorite Paul Bloom joins us to talk about the pleasures of suffering, flow states, Sisyphus, meaning, and dating questions. Check out his new book The Sweet Spot which comes out today! Plus what

Episode 223: The Hopeless Dream of Being (Bergman's "Persona")

19 Oct 2021

David and Tamler dive into Ingmar Bergman’s 1966 masterpiece Persona, a film about two (?) women, Elisabet, a famous stage actress who has stopped speaking, and Alma the chatty young nurse assigned

Episode 222: Choosing Sartre for All Mankind

5 Oct 2021

David and Tamler don black turtlenecks and light up a couple of Gauloises to talk about Jean Paul Sartre's classic essay “Existentialism is a Humanism.” Why are choices so fundamental to our

Episode 221: Granite Cocks vs Robot Overlords

21 Sep 2021

David and Tamler wind their way through the long-requested “Meditations on Moloch” by Scott Alexander, a comprehensive account of the coordination problems (personified by Allan Ginsberg’s